A fellow this morning was curious when I told him I was studying climate change. He was especially interested in the solar influences. He asked about CO2, to which I acknowledged it has some effect but at 350PPM it was about done. The effect was never significant. I explained about the solar magnetic influence and how incoming charged particles could alter our cloud cover. I told him about this blog. Will he see this?
Then another fellow, a scientist(astronomer), joined in. My friend asked him about his opinion and he said the sun only plays a minor role in the Earth’s climate and any real scientist believes that man’s influence is the dominant factor in climate. He also said we are on the verge of a tipping point. He also said that people like me always point to the political nature of the discussion. He claimed a 99% to 100% consensus and explained that he teaches this stuff. I was, of course, challenged as to whether or not, I too was a scientist or just a spreader of disinformation.
I found this quite interesting as this was the very first encounter with anyone who actually verbalized exactly all the classical alarmist beliefs in one quick package. The consensus paper to which he was referring, but couldn’t cite in any form, was the Cook et al 97% consensus paper that was destroyed here. As Dr. Legates, a “real” climatologist, clearly stated, “Dr Legates said: “It is astonishing that any journal could have published a paper claiming a 97% climate consensus when on the authors’ own analysis the true consensus was well below 1%.” That number is closer to 0.3%. Cook arbitrarily ignored 8000 of the nearly 12,000 papers in his sample. That is not cricket Mr. Cook. An earlier paper, by a graduate student, started with ~3,000 responses to a survey and whittled them down to an arbitrary 75 out of 77 who believed that man was responsible for some of the warming since the turn of the century (1900). Cook was following an established technique.
As for the small insignificant effect from solar activity I relate my article, Can you spot the cold periods? 100% of non-scientist respondents were able to discern the cold periods.
So all the folks I deal with on a regular basis and those I follow are apparently not real scientists. Let’s check out a few of these phony scientists.
Fred Singer –
Dr. S. Fred Singer is Research Fellow at The Independent Institute, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia, President of the Science and Environmental Policy Project, a Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and a Member of the International Academy of Astronautics. He received his Ph.D. in physics from Princeton University.
Dr. Singer has served as Vice Chairman of the National Advisory Committee on Oceans and Atmospheres; Chief Scientist for the U. S. Department of Transportation; Deputy Assistant Administrator at the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency; Deputy Assistant Secretary at the U. S. Department of the Interior; Dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences, University of Miami; (First) Director of the U. S. Weather Satellite Center; Director of the Center for Atmospheric and Space Physics, University of Maryland; and Research Physicist, Upper Atmospheric Rocket Program, Johns Hopkins University. He has also been a visiting scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars; Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology; National Air and Space Museum; Lyndon Baines Johnson School for Public Affairs, University of Texas; and the Soviet Academy of Sciences Institute for Physics of the Earth. He is the recipient of the White House Special Commendation, Gold Medal Award from the U.S. Department of Commerce, (First) Science Award from the British Interplanetary Society, and Honorary Doctorate from Ohio State University.
Dr. Singer is the author or editor of fourteen books on climate science, energy, and environmental issues as well as the author of over 400 articles in scientific and public policy journals plus over 200 articles in popular publications, and more.
Now that is a c.v. of a real scientist!
How about Dr. David Legates? Professor of Climatology at the University of Delaware and I served as the Delaware State Climatologist from 2005 to 2011. I also am an adjunct faculty member in the Department of Agricultural Economics & Statistics and the Physical Ocean Science and Engineering Program. I received a B.A. in Mathematics and Geography, a M.S. in Geography, and a Ph.D. in Climatology, all from the University of Delaware. I served on the faculty of the University of Oklahoma and Louisiana State University before returning to the University of Delaware in 1999. I was part of the US delegation that negotiated a protocol for the first climate data exchange program with the Soviet Union in 1990. I am recognized as a Certified Consulting Meteorologist by the American Meteorological Society and was the recipient of the 2002 Boeing Autometric Award in Image Analysis and Interpretation by the American Society of Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing.
Dr. Legates appears to have acceptable credentials. Hummm!
Dr. Roy Spenser –
Roy W. Spencer received his Ph.D. in meteorology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1981. Before becoming a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville in 2001, he was a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, where he and Dr. John Christy received NASA’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for their global temperature monitoring work with satellites. Dr. Spencer’s work with NASA continues as the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming.
Dr. Spencer’s research has been entirely supported by U.S. government agencies: NASA, NOAA, and DOE. He has never been asked by any oil company to perform any kind of service. Not even Exxon-Mobil.
These folks seem to be on the up and up. Real scientists for sure.
How about Dr. Bob Carter from Australia-
|Professor Carter is the author of the important new book on climate science and policy, “Climate: the Counter Consensus”. View a short excerpt of Professor Carter in a 2007 televised debate.
Dr. Carter is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist with over 30 years professional experience, and holds degrees from the University of Otago (New Zealand) and the University of Cambridge (England). He has held tenured academic staff positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999.
Bob Carter has acted as an expert witness on climate change before the U.S. Senate Committee of Environment & Public Works, the Australian and N.Z. parliamentary Select Committees into emissions trading and in a meeting in parliament house, Stockholm. He was also a primary science witness in the U.K. High Court case of Dimmock v. H.M.’s Secretary of State for Education, the 2007 judgment which identified nine major scientific errors in Mr. Al Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth”.
Professor Carter has a personal research publication record of more than 100 papers in international science journals on taxonomic palaeontology, palaeoecology, the growth and form of the molluscan shell, New Zealand and Pacific geology, stratigraphic classification, sequence stratigraphy, sedimentology, the Great Barrier Reef, Quaternary geology, and sea-level and climate change. His current research on climate change, sea-level change and stratigraphy is based on field studies of Cenozoic sediments (last 65 million years) from the Southwest Pacific region, especially the Great Barrier Reef and New Zealand.
|Professor Carter has wide experience in management and research administration, including service as Chair of the Earth Sciences Discipline Panel of the Australian Research Council, Chair of the national Marine Science and Technologies Committee, Director of the Australian Office of the Ocean Drilling Program, and Co-Chief Scientist on ODP Leg 181 (Southwest Pacific Gateways).
Besides being a real scientist, I really like this guy. He is one heck of a presenter with several entertaining videos on you tube. A really funny guy but hard hitting with factual information.
Dr. Clifford Ollier – Cliff Ollier is a geologist, geomorphologist, soil scientist, emeritus professor and honorary research fellow, School of Earth and Geographical Sciences University of Western Australia. He was formerly at Australian National University, University of New England, Australia, Canberra University, University of Papua New Guinea, and University of Melbourne. Throughout his career he was a prolific author (as C.D Ollier) and he has contributed to reference works such as The Oxford Companion to the Earth. His books include: Volcanoes; (1st ed 1969); (2nd ed 1988),The Origin of Mountains, Ancient landforms.
And one heck of a nice fellow. If I ever get to Australia, he’d be the first person I would look up.
I could supply a hundred more credentials of noted skeptics but if there is any question you can look for yourself.
When someone who adheres to the belief of catastrophic man made global warming and does not even know who Phil Jones is,
His c.v. Research Director of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) and a Professor in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia in Norwich. I am principlally known for the time series of hemispheric and global surface temperatures, which I update on a monthly basis. I have over 400 research papers over the last 35 years. I have over 27,500 citations and an H-index of 82 on the Researcher ID system.
I have been a fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society since 1992 and was on the Editorial Committee of the International Journal of Climatology until 1995. I am currently on the editorial board of Climatic Change. I am an elected member of Academic Europaea since 1998.
I was jointly awarded the Hugh Robert Mill Medal in 1995 by the Royal Meteorological Society for work on UK Rainfall Variability, and in 1997 the Outstanding Scientific Paper Award by the Environmental Research Laboratories / NOAA for being a coauthor on the paper “A search for Human Influences on the Thermal Structure of the Atmosphere,” by Ben Santer et al. in Nature, 382, 39-46 (1996). More recently I was awarded the first Hans Oesschger Medal from the European Geophysical Society (now the European Geosciences Union) in 2002 and the International Journal of Climatology prize of the Royal Meteorological Society for papers published in the last five years, also in 2002. I am recognised as one of the top 0.5% of highly-cited researchers in the Geosciences field by the ISI (the institute in the US that maintains the Web of Science, where publications and citations are monitored. I was made (2006) a fellow of the American Meteorological Society and was awarded a Reviewer’s Award by the American Geophysical Union (AGU) the same year. In 2009 I have also been made a fellow by the AGU. In 2012 I was awarded an Honorary Degree by the University Rovira I Virgili (Tarragona, Spain).
Apart from papers on instrumental temperatures, my other main fields are climate change, detection and attribution of climate, proxy climate reconstructions, climate extremes, climate impacts, weather generators, drought and long precipitation and riverflow reconstructions for the British Isles.
OK so his c.v. looks pretty good too. I suppose he is a real scientist too. So we have established there are real scientists on opposite sides of this topic. What a shocker!
As for the models predictive abilities, a picture is worth a thousand words.
It would appear that perhaps reality will win out in the end. Mother Nature is a cruel arbiter.